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andrewbb (Nov 21, 2016)


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Animated map of the Mississippi River will completely change your perspective on rivers.
andrewbb (Nov 21, 2016)


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Andrew Brown I was thinking of towing water up from San Diego over the continental divide, and building a river down through Phoenix, south in Mexico and spilling out into the Gulf of Mexico.
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Andrew Brown Turn that desert into farmland, is a salmon run possible, then hike and bike trails on the Eastern side of the Rockies.
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Andrew Brown They have some windmills at the top of the hill already.
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Jean Marie Macaluso I don't see the practicality of that idea.
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Andrew Brown Land values would sky-rocket. Farmland throughout that desert.
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Andrew Brown It's all desert down through there.
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Andrew Brown What do you mean by practical?
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Andrew Brown Hire some surveyors, build a pipe, tow the water up, and let it drop down the other side.
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Jean Marie Macaluso You can't just "tow" water, Andrew. You need a continuous supply. It's far too labor-intensive to be practical.
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Andrew Brown Pulling from the Pacific Ocean... plenty of water.
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Andrew Brown The windmills (and solar) can provide the power.
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Jean Marie Macaluso First off, it's salt water.
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Jean Marie Macaluso Well, at any rate, that one should keep you busy for a while. What came of your confab with W?
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Andrew Brown It can be desalinated as it's flowing down the mountain. Lots of propellers for power.
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andrewbb (Nov 21, 2016)


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Andrew Brown http://nationalgeographic.org/.../great-pacific-garbage.../
Great Pacific Garbage Patch
The Great Pacific Garbage Patch is a collection of marine debris in the North Pacific Ocean.…
NATIONALGEOGRAPHIC.ORG|BY NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC SOCIETY
 
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Andrew Brown Plus, we could clean up that garbage patch at the same time.
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Andrew Brown Pull the water up, that's where all the trash ends up, so plastic recycling in San Diego.
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Jean Marie Macaluso Noble and worthwhile goals I grant you.
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Andrew Brown All possible. Not even that expensive either.
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Jean Marie Macaluso What happened with W?
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Andrew Brown Busy I guess.
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Jean Marie Macaluso hah No doubt.
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Jean Marie Macaluso He's been going through a rough patch.
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Andrew Brown I tried contacting his suggestions. No response.
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Andrew Brown As the water is falling down the other side of the mountain, plenty energy is available, and you desalinate, clean it of pollution, harvest copper, gold, silver, etc.
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Jean Marie Macaluso Idk...Everything is crazy-ish lately.
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Andrew Brown With my patent setting policy on how much pollution vs. resources, that farm land would provide data on how much you can pull.
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Jean Marie Macaluso Sounds good. One never knows, do one? Well it's worth working on, I suppose.
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Andrew Brown Can I pull ALL gold from that water without damaging plants?
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Andrew Brown I don't know either, so I'm suggesting a 50% gold pull is allowed.
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Andrew Brown All that trash in the "garbage patch" has every molecule in it. So, the natural resources are HUGE.
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Andrew Brown It's like a free mine.
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Jean Marie Macaluso Are you saying gold is necessary for plants growth?
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Andrew Brown Scientists say it's inert. But they're not positive of that. So, I say 50% and then experiment.
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Andrew Brown And due to the ocean currents, that mine is replenished.

 
andrewbb (Nov 21, 2016)


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Jean Marie Macaluso I had this idea for a molecular "spinner" or something to separate garbage into molecular weights similar to haw a coin-spinner works.
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Andrew Brown Sounds like a good idea.
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Andrew Brown Any idea how to spin it? The flow of water will work.
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Andrew Brown Did you read my molecular dynamics?
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Andrew Brown I think the water can flow through magnetic fields. I'd have to understand what you by the spinning it into molecular weights.
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Andrew Brown keihatsu-moleculardynamics.blogspot.com
 
Molecular Dynamics
A science focusing on the shape, size, electrical charge, and other characteristics of individual molecules as they move in fluids
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Jean Marie Macaluso You think it's doable then?
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Andrew Brown Yes.
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Andrew Brown What's a coin-spinner?
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Jean Marie Macaluso I may be wrong but it is something you dump a bunch of coins into and it sorts them. I might have imagined the spinning part. They have 'em in supermarkets.
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Andrew Brown That's worth a try. As the water flows, it provides pressure. Molecules can be separated with physical and magnetic "sleeves".
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Jean Marie Macaluso Well, you have your work cut out for you! :)
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Andrew Brown I donated that patent to UT. It's their work, if it can ever get public.
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Andrew Brown The students I told were quite excited about it.
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andrewbb (Nov 21, 2016)


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Jean Marie Macaluso What patent?
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Andrew Brown https://www.google.com/patents/US20110020893
 
Patent US20110020893 - Trapping discrete particles in fluids (For example, filtering for specific virus, molecule, or other identifiable particle in water, blood, air or other fluids)
The invention describes a way to target and trap a specific particle (atom, molecule, bacterium, photon, ion, virus, etc.) that can be extracted from a moving fluid flow. Since every particle has a unique and identifiable shape and/or electromagnetic signature, a trap can be built to target it. The…
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Jean Marie Macaluso Oh yeah, I remember this one.
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Andrew Brown Several people on campus tried to get the idea public, including telling the press. But somehow it stayed quiet.
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Jean Marie Macaluso The time was not right. Patience.
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Andrew Brown No. Some jerks blocked it in the hierarchy.
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Jean Marie Macaluso The idiocracy was in full strength.
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Andrew Brown The people I talked to about it, all understood.
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Jean Marie Macaluso It's changing though.
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Andrew Brown I hope so.
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Jean Marie Macaluso It is, I assure you.
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Anonymous (Nov 24, 2016)


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Arch-Lock(TM) might be useful:
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"Trapping discrete particles in fluids" - a patent for every particle in the universe donated to the University of Texas at Edinburg a few months ago:

https://www.google.com/patents/US20110020893

 
andrewbb (Nov 26, 2016)


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The "Uphill River"

We can use an existing river to place the pipes into.  The downhill flow of the river will provide hydro-electric power to pull the water up the mountain.  This has the added benefit of not requiring land easements.

I think there might be a fluid-dynamics principle that makes the "uphill river" elegantly simple.
andrewbb (Nov 28, 2016)


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Plants and trees can absorb lots of that pollution.  Tree line the uphill river to the top of the mountain.  And the way down.
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